and then, of course, the yankees, man. that playoff race. >> ooh. >> you remember what i said at the beginning of the year? i said the red sox -- we only want to be ahead of the orioles. we all laughed. it's tied! >> and the red sox have a chance to spoil the yankees' season. so that might be a saving grace, at the end of this miserable year, they have three games in new york, they could ruin the yankees' scene. >> john heilemann, as a fellow red sox fan, you and i would take no pleasure out of the red sox destroying the yankees' season. despite the fact that the yankees -- >> speak for yourself there. >> 7-0. and i just remind any boston red sox that are crawling out of the gutter this morning, 162nd game of the year last year, the yankees ahead 7-0. and if they win that, we're in the playoffs and they tank it for us. >> yes, that's right. yeah, i think we'll take no small amount of pleasure. you've got to take your pleasures where you get them this season, joe, and hurting the yankees would be just a little bit of pleasu